Your
emotion and feeling is good and
understandable but I am bit
frustrated by your strong language.
No you are wrong Nitish is not
begging Nitish is requesting NRI and
NRB to invest in their own country
in their own state for betterment of
their own people as well as for
earning profit. This can be named as
humble and polite request and no way
begging. And I am sure humble and
polite request of Nitish will go
long way. And yes Nitish is a king
but king of a bankrupt state. Agreed
he need to improve law and order,
control crime etc. etc. but you know
what? Money talks! Money is not only
required for creating jobs, money is
also needed for controlling crime.
Police needs modern equipment
training, infrastructure and for
that money is needed. I am glad that
Nitish is not beating empty drum
like Laloo by saying "road of Bihar/Hema
Malini", "make Bihar literate like
Kerala" etc. etc. and is on solid
ground in real world. - Kaushal
Das - Jan. 11, 2006
Since when seeking financial aid
from outside/private resources have
become begging, Mr. Vishwakarma? And
who said that crime control and
Bihar building are exclusive to each
other and couldn't be undertaken
together?
You talk about first step and second
step - check crime and then beg!! So
let's assume Nitish was begging in
Hyderabad. What did you want from
him - skip the NRI meet completely
because Lalu and his cohorts had
destroyed the state by nurturing
criminals in their party and wait
for next year or the year after or
the year after until all the
criminals were put behind bars
before the state government should
have gone to the NRI meet?
It just so happened that the NRI
meet was organized (by the UPA
government, not Nitish government,
mind you) in the early weeks of
January 2006 - less than two months
after Nitish and company came to
power. Is it his fault that in two
months he could not check crime in
the state and therefore, according
to you, he didn't have any moral
right to ask for help (or beg, in
your words) from the potential
investors, NRI or not?
Any reasonable person would have
tried to take advantage of the
opportunity presented before him
(the NRI meet). You would too, if
you were in his position.
There is nothing wrong in giving
credit where the credit is due.
I have been noticing that there are
many people, mostly politicians from
RJD and Congress, some in the media,
and a large number of Congress-RJD
cronies are secretly wishing,
praying, hoping and sabotaging to
ensure Nitish government fails
miserably so their 'beloved raja'
could once again come into power
screaming "See, I told you so." They
can't stand a man who is working
hard to put the state back on the
path of prosperity and peace because
that would prove such people were
wrong all along. Are you one of
them, Mr. Vishwakarma? If not, then
let's just leave this man alone for
a few years. He knows what he is
doing; probably a lot more than you
and I and others on this forum
combined! If he fails to deliver in
5 years, give a big kick in his
behind and throw him out of power.
But until then, hold your horses and
quit second-guessing every move he
makes. - Anil Kumar - Jan. 11,
2006
Anil Kumar you have missed the gist
of my article. I have already
commented about the inefficient Lalu
in the first paragraph. My only
contention is that one should first
exercise the powers directly vested
on them before counting on the
far-fetched / dependent options. For
example, let's assume that I work at
a railway ticket counter and am a
slow and inefficient worker who
takes many breaks and processes the
tickets very slowly. Now before
taking out a julus/morcha for the
common good against the inefficiency
of say the electricity department
(over which I have minimum control),
it would be smarter to correct my
own actions in my job first and help
the common good. If I don't do this,
then I am either ignorant or
unethical or both.
I agree that it's too early to
comment on Nitish yet but at the
same time people should not lower
their guard against the actions of
all the politicians otherwise there
is no difference between a blind BJP
supporter and a blind RJD supporter.
Both are a hazard to the common
good. Just because you like the BJP,
don't stop taking a critical look at
their leaders and sugar coating all
of their actions, same holds true
for a RJD supporter. If all of us
cannot do it then we are going to be
struck in the one step forward and
two steps backward syndrome. If you
have not already read the book or
seen the movie ‘Animal Farm’ yet, do
it now, it might open up your eyes.
It’s written by a very famous
English author George Orwell (born
in Motihari in Bihar). - Som
Vishwakarma, USA - Jan. 11, 2006
Weary is the head that wears the
crown. The other heads are relaxed
and full of advice and ideas. As the
lines of a famous ad go "Jub jeevan
me ho aram to ideas aate hain".
After all the other heads do not
have to own any responsibility if
things go wrong. They can
conveniently pass the buck to the
head with the crown and the wisdom
inside that head.
I guess deep thought is required
before suggesting anything. Feelings
and fleeting or frivolous ideas
should be first put to reason and
thought. Something like putting
oneself in Nitish Kumar's shoes,
looking at the scenario through his
eyes and being aware of all
constraints and consequences. -
Rajesh Chaubey - Jan.12, 2006
For last 10 years and so media and
elites combined kept on repeating
again and again that only and only
Laloo Yadav is responsible for
whatever is wrong with Bihar. It is
very natural for people to expect
that now Laloo has gone, problem
should be not be there.
I know things do not work like that
but very campaign against Laloo
Yadav was on this line and no wonder
now it is acting like double edge
sword. How can BJP silent people
when till last month all its leaders
were shouting from top of the roof
LAW & ORDER, JUNGLE RAJ?
Even Laloo Ji organized NRI meet in
Patna, he visited USA, he visited
Singapore but there was no
investment and at that time
opposition said unless law and order
problem is fixed no body will invest
in Bihar.
Well, where is the difference? Now
Nitish Ji is luring NRIs and
criminals are kidnapping the
existing investors from Patna. Kids
are being butchered on refusal of
ransom. Situation is still the same!
People like me who really wish
success to Nitish Ji and Sushil Ji
are cautioning them against déjà vu.
I was very pleased to read that on
Nitish Ji’s initiative, all three
Big leaders of India, Nitish Ji,
Laloo Ji and Ram Vilas Ji have
formed a team Bihar, speaking for
Bihar in one language. For the first
time after Assam butchery, Shiv Sena
beating, Atal Ji dropping his middle
name, Goa ban and Laxman warning,
here we are, Defense Ministry
rejected Bihar’s Republic Day
tableau on ‘Chhath Puja’ and all
three leaders are writing to Defense
Ministry. They all are protesting
together against the idea to shelve
the Ordnance Factory in Nalanda.
If Bihar has to survive, its leaders
have to rise above party politics or
else Laxaman will send all of them
to Africa irrespective of the Party.
Those who are talking about law and
order and those who are talking
about development, all of them are
right!
Nitish Ji will not fail, he has
clear mandate, it will be altogether
different story if like V P Singh
government, BJP takes its support
back. This is quite possible,
because if Laxaman’s Bihari-Afrikee
warning episode is any indicator,
BJP still feels that it has no stake
in Bihar, it got it by fluke and
Bihar is secondary.
Patna is not Bhopal, here those who
get support they get it for 15
years. Today in India, Nitish Ji and
Sushil Ji are among the best
leaders. If BJP will try to
destabilize them then BJP will
vanish from Bihar like Janta Dal but
Nitish Ji and Sushil Ji will still
rule Bihar because Biharis sign
contract for 15 years and start
reviewing the contract from first
day.
I welcome the views of the Author of
the original article. He is doing
right thing by sharing his views.
Even Ram Khelawan Yadav use to say
with on DMU, “Laloo Yadav knows more
than you all so keep quite”, no need
to keep quite, please share your
idea! - Vipin Singh - Jan.12,
2006
Dear Mr. Vishwakarma:
I have read the books by George
Orwell (both the Animal Farm and the
1984) and I understand the nuances
like some pigs are more equal than
others and that the big brother is
watching. Probably read it long
before you read it (1968, to be
exact, when, unlike in last 20
years, Patna University students
actually used to study to pass the
exams). Don't worry about opening my
eyes but do worry about opening your
mind.
I agree that people should not lower
their guards (in spite of the fact
that there was NO GUARD for last 15
years) but that is no reason for
Nitish Kumar to not think about
other ways to improve the state
besides worrying about putting all
the criminals in jails. These two
things are not exclusive but can go
together side by side. Your approach
is 'do only this'; but my approach
is, and thank God Nitish Kumar's
approach is as well: 'not only do
this, but keep working in other
areas as well'. Do you see the
difference?
Also, to equate seeking financial
help or ideas from the NRIs or other
prominent businessmen to begging is
ludicrous, to say the least. What
was Lalu doing throughout his 15
years of rule? Begging from the
Central government, wouldn't you
agree? In spite of 15 years of
begging and an NRI meet in Patna and
his futile visit to the US on
taxpayer's money, what did Bihar
get? Zero, zilch, zip, nada! Does
that mean that just because Lalu
failed in his attempt; other leaders
will also fail in similar fashion?
Do you know if Lalu's intentions
were even genuine?
So have a little patience before you
start judging the new Chief
Minister's performance or motive.
Don't expect miracles in 2 months -
or even two years, for that matter.
Like I said before, if Nitish Kumar
doesn't deliver what he promised
during the election campaign he will
be shown the door in a heartbeat.
Monday-morning quarterbacking is
easy; try to get in the game and see
if you don't get bruised or hurt. -
Anil Kumar - Jan.12, 2006
Any mention of cautious optimism
against their lord and master the
BJP and the NDA makes certain people
jump out of their chair! The author
has written a very good article. The
investments will not come to Bihar
just because Biharis contributed to
the development of Punjab,
Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. The
investments will only come when the
businesses see profit (which is
quite understandable). The profit
will come only when the law and
order situation improves
drastically. That being said, don’t
assume that I am a Lalu supporter
simply because I am questioning the
CM, because I am not. - Rajendra
Kumar - Jan.12, 2006
Anil Kumar Jee if you gave Lalu only
fifteen years to fix five thousand
years of mess then giving Nitish
Kumar two years for fixing fifteen
years of mess is too much! Jokes
apart, I didn't like people singing
blind praises of any leader be it
Advani, Lalu, Sonia or Nitish. It
doesn't matter if you are a Yadav
like Lalu or a Kurmi like Nitish but
please stop being a fanatic
supporter. - Ramsharan, Orlando,
Florida, USA - Jan.12, 2006
Without building the foundation we
cannot build a house over it.
Without fulfilling the lower level
of the Moslow pyramid the higher
level cannot be reached. Business
people take calculated risks and do
not gamble blindly. Until the basic
security needs of the people is
satisfied the only businesses that
will come would be the ones
interested in getting acres of land
at throwaway prices. - Rajesh
Sahu, Manchester, UK - Jan.12, 2006
To Mr. Rajendra Kumar; so let's see,
if someone comes out in support of
BJP or NDA, that is because BJP or
the NDA is their "lord and master".
But when you come out in defense of
your darling leader Lalu, it is
because your views are very
objective and your are 'more
enlightened' than the rest of us
mere mortals; right?
Adding a convenient disclaimer at
the end of your message that you are
not a Lalu supporter doesn't mean a
thing. I can also add a similar
notice at the end of my message
saying I am not a BJP or NDA
supporter. Would you believe me?
Apparently not. So what makes you
think I am going to believe you?
Don't be a hypocrite; If you are a
Lalu supporter, go ahead and admit
it. There is nothing wrong with
that. That's why there is a
multi-party system in India.
And to you Ramsharan ji, you can
sing paeans of Lalu all you want and
you are considered an intellectually
'smarter person' than us ignorants.
But God forbid if someone supports
NDA. He is immediately branded as a
fanatic. What did I say that you
concluded that I was a 'fanatic'?
When people run out of valid
arguments, they seek shelter in name
calling just like you did. And why,
in the name of God, do you have to
drag in Kurmis and Yadavs in this
discussion? It's people like you who
pull out the caste and class cards
at the drop of a hat but call others
casteists. No point in having a
discussion with you. - Anil Kumar
- Jan.12, 2006
I fully and whole-heartily support
Nitish Ji in the recent NRI
convention in Hyderabad. What he is
doing there is the first step
towards bringing prosperity to our
beleaguered state. If bringing FDI
or any kind of investment is called
begging, then be it! What matters
here is the net result and that is
well being of the state of Bihar
after 15 years of misrule. As a well
wisher i wish the newly elected CM
all the best in his endeavors. -
Ameet Srivastava, USA - Jan. 12,
2006
Guys there is no point of indulging
in name calling because of the knee
jerk reaction of some or shall I say
one reader. Peace. - Rajesh Sahu,
Manchester, UK - Jan. 12, 2006
'Shaant, gadaa-dhaari Bheem, Shaant!'.
In college, whenever someone in our
friend's group lost temper in a
discussion, we used to pacify him by
saying this famous line from the TV
Serial 'Mahabharat'. Not that I do
not have an opinion on this article,
just that I follow the policy of not
discussing politics and religion in
public. By the way, going by one of
our friend's statement here, Nitish
Kumar has to fix the mess of not
just 15 years, but, 5000 + 15 = 5015
years. Does our CM know that? Just
kidding. - Kumod Jha - Jan. 12,
2006
During the election campaign, Nitish
and his party asked Bihar to give
them a chance, and their top most
priority will be law and order. In
90 days, they promised, we will
control crimes in Bihar. It has
already crossed the halfway mark.
Some in this forum have mentioned
that he needs at least 2 years to
gain control. If we judge him simply
by his campaign promises, then we
can lump him in with rest of the
liars who wanted to occupy the chair
and rob Bihar and its citizens.
Campaign promises, at best, seem
like fantasies. I am not a blind
supporter of Lalu Pd or Nitish
Kumar. I support Bihar. Whoever will
work for the good of Bihar is
welcome by me. As Chief Minister,
you have power, and if you know how
to use it, control will come in a
minute.
I read in the news yesterday that he
has said to the top brass of the
cops that he does not want to hear
details, he wants to see only
results. That is the spirit. I am
fully supporting him to bring
Prosperity and Happiness in Bihar.
Do everything you can do to make
Bihar prosperous and on the world
map. We have talent, manpower, land
and other resources. The ingredients
are already here, waiting for a
catalyst to get things moving
positively. Nitish seems to have the
tools to do this. Mr. Nitish, you
can start with the criminals who
call themselves ministers. They
change parties like other people
change their clothes, and they take
every opportunity to line their
pockets and turn a blind eye to the
chaos that reigns around them.
Caution, Mr. Nitish: If you close
your eyes to what they do, these
wolves will turn on you and bite, as
they have done to your predecessors.
You must know, as we all are aware,
"Ghar Ka Bhedi Lanka Dhaye". So,
please control them, control the
crime and money will be flowing in
Bihar.
I disagree with some of our Bihar
brothers about the 15 years of
misrule by Lalu Pd. It is true that
he did nothing for the development
of Bihar, and additionally allowed
crime to run rampant. Let me remind
you that when Congress ruled, our
Bihari “leaders” were licking the
feet of centre and doing nothing
else. South India took everything
that was proposed for Bihar, and our
leaders were feeding their own
homes. If we believe the things that
we write here, then comments about
which caste a leader belongs to are
inappropriate. Bias is pervasive.
Events in the past are just that:
PAST. Nothing can be done to change
them. All we can do is start in a
new place and be determined that we
will take these lemons handed to us
and make lemonade from them. Please
rise above caste politics and think
solely about Bihar and what we all
can do from this point onward.
Personally, I support Nitish for
going to Hyderabad to invite NRIs to
invest in Bihar. There is nothing
wrong in exploring all lawful
options and avenues available to us.
- S. M. Khurshid Anwar, New York,
USA - Jan, 12, 2006 |