Very wise comments! - Manish
Chandra - July 10, 2006
I am disgusted by what the professor did. He has insulted the
very noble profession which he is
in. However, just look around, there
are many filthy, opportunists like
him wandering around looking for an
opportunity.
I wonder what has gone wrong with
the girl. From her behavior it seems
she was opportunity incarnate for
the professor. Is she mad, blind or
both?
Can she not see a slimy, old,
haggard, balding, gaunt, dark
complexioned, spectacled wolf in the
professor grabbing at his last
chances before his teeth fall off?
If she is so foolish she deserves
what she has got.
As regards the professor's wife.
Nothing new. A lady is being
tortured by another one. That is how
it always goes, doesn't it? Women
are very often the cause of troubles
for other women. Men are often
blamed as they are the brawny ones
around. If a woman was to feel and
empathize with another woman would
we have such professors getting
opportunities?
Who watches all the Saas Bahu
serials on TV? The poor men are busy
at work. Millions of middle class
house wives and teenaged girls are
busy researching family disputes,
filthy politics, flings and affairs
shown on TV channels. Some channels
even show affairs within a family
and all this filth is lapped up
eagerly by the fairer sex. No lady
has ever raised a voice against the
negative light in which women are
portrayed in such TV serials. All
are busy watching the twists and
turns of filthy domestic politics
and bhabhi-devar affairs. Shame on
you!!!
Now when a behna goes out to enact
some of that filth they get charged.
They enjoyed within-family flings
and affairs shown on TV but find it
hard to tolerate this much milder
and less sleazy enactment. What do
we expect from the youngsters who
have grown up watching filth sitting
next to their highly engrossed
mothers and sisters? As they watch
the cleverly named "Ghar Ghar ki
Kahanis" and "Har Ghar ki Kahanis"
they grow up wondering how boring
their household is. They become
ideal victims for the waiting
opportunistic Jekyll and Hyde
professors, loafers, etc, etc and
etc. Who is to blame? Your guess is
as good as mine. - Rajesh Chaubey
- July 10, 2006
The man is ugly, the woman (the
student) is pagli. The wife should
pull a Lorena Bobbitt (Google it, in
case you are not familiar with her
name) on this scum-bag. - Anil
Kumar - July 10, 2006
Girl had rightly said that this
hypocrite society behaves in double
standard. Can you imagine blackening
faces of Dharmendra/Hema Malini on
similar count? Do we raise our voice
on Dowry? We should first see our
own house then point fingers to
others. When you point one finger
towards other then 3 fingers are
always directed towards yourself. It
is very easy to give advice but
difficult to follow. In our
parliament more then 60% are from
criminal background. Who have
elected them? Yes, we all are
criminals to make our country what
today it is. - P. K. Tyagi - July
10, 2006
Not sure when people from Bihar will
grow mentally. What is wrong being
in Love or Intimacy? Absolutely
Nothing!! 30 years difference in age
shouldn't be taken against the Love
or Intimacy.
There are so many examples in world,
where many people married or had
girl friend with huge difference in
ages. Just few examples., Sitar
Maestro Pundit Ravi Shankar, Fifa
Boss Sapp Blatter, Exiled king of
Iran, Previous King of Syria,
Jordan, Arafat, many business
tycoons all over the world. I can
see many such examples in western
world with common people also. There
is nothing wrong in it if both
parties agrees and if they are
adults. Grow Up!! No one has to be
moral police. Leave the moral sense
to preach to your infants!! People
should mind their own business. Let
people live their life as they want
to be.
Indian TV media only sensationalise
the news as they have no material or
can't produce a good news channel or
they have no money to put up a good
News Channel. News channel of India
is at best comic channel. I don't
want to comment more on News channel
quality to dilute the content of the
message. - Rajeev Kumar - July
10, 2006
This incident has once again exposed
the society of it's hypocrisy. This
is the same Patna where a noted
singer Udit Narayan Jha gets police
protection, when his "wife" Ranjana
Jha demands for her legitimate right
and Udit shamelessly denies even
knowing her. "Mai kisi Ranjana naam
ke mahila ko jaanta tak nahi hoon".
Did anyone dare paint Udit's face
black? Did any dare write somewhere
(on some website) that Udit was
caught in "compromising position"
with his girlfriend Deepa? Did
anyone dare beat Deepa and drag her
with hairs?
Media and "thikedaars" of the
society are calling names and
terming the professor as "love Guru"
and bringing pure family issue on
the roads? This professor is not
denying the fact that the "wife" is
not his wife. If the professor and
Julie have committed any crime, let
the affected party goes to the
court. But the media and others
watching and telecasting the
incident on national TV channels
when a person (professor's) wife was
taking the law in her own hands and
others painting professor's face
black reminded me of recent incident
when media and other spectators were
more interested in recording films
than saving a person when a man
poured petrol on himself and thus
immolated himself in full glare of
media and public. Another point is -
Is this such a big issue to get
national TVs prime time attention?
Just few days back, we read article
on PatnaDaily by Kumod Jha how the
news channels have diverted to
become a masala channels. Media is
one such example that shows that
privatization and competition don't
always bring quality. Very recently,
a news item with video footage was
shown on a news channel where a
Ghaziabad based husband was
complaining to the media that how
his wife and "bhabhi" were having
"relationship" when he was away.
This "incident" again highlights a
fact that is often discussed in
agony columns of newspapers and
magazines that most of the failed
marriages stem out of incompatible
relationships at physical and mental
level of both the partners. Marriage
counselors and psychologists have
been saying this for long. I am not
saying that this could be the reason
of failed marriage of the professor;
at the most this is the lesson one
can learn from this incident. Don't
take your partner guaranteed for
his/her love, as an "unsatisfied"
person can stray for anything at any
stage of life. Again not to say that
"since the professor was unsatisfied
from his wife hence ....". Why to be
cautious only with regard to your
partners, the same applies to your
siblings as well. Just look around
yourself. Don't you remember the
incident of Pramod Mahajan?
This incident is as simple as a
person aged 53-year old man gets
"strayed" towards a beautiful,
young, attractive Julie for the
reason best known to the Professor,
his wife and Julie. Is this straying
very rare in the society? No it has
been there for long, only now it is
getting large coverage by media. So
society is becoming a puppet in the
hands of the powerful media.
If you are concerned with it's
ill-impact on the society, let it
remain within the four walls of home
and courts and within the 3 persons
involved. Why do you think that a
"bad/corrupt" teacher will undo all
the good deeds of nation/character
building by rest of the good
teachers so it is important to
punish the love guru publicly?
If any handsome and young man is
getting jealous of the fact that how
come this young, beautiful and
attractive girl Julie got attracted
to an old, ugly professor despite
the presence of the handsome, I
can't help it. Are you surprised for
hypocrisy of many young men/women in
the society? Did they come out in
such numbers and stop 'kanta laga..."
song playing in Saraswati Puja
Pandal? Do we have any right on
being judgmental on the Professor,
Julie or the "wife'?
Mr. Anil Kumar is prescribing "a
Lorena Bobbitt by the wife" for the
"ugly" professor. What is your
prescription for the "beautiful"
Julie? - Prabhat Sinha, Noida -
July 10, 2006
If you read between the lines, you
would know what is the prescription
for Julie. She has been to mental
institutes several times in the past
as reported in the media. That's
where she belongs and hence the
adjective 'pagli'.
Mr. Sinha, you and I are
diametrically opposed to each other
as proven in past. I don't agree
with you on your favorite topic
'reservation' and I don't agree with
you on this issue either. You are
free to have your opinion and I am
free to have mine. Let's just leave
it like that. - Anil Kumar -
July 10, 2006
Please do not come to any conclusion
based on TV channel reports. I
prefer not to give a judgment on
this case because I have certain
questions unanswered yet. If the
professor’s wife knew about her
husband’s alleged illicit affairs
with several young women, what was
stopping her from filing a divorce
petition? What result was she trying
to achieve by dramatizing her
personal issue in front of TV
cameras? If the professor was being
tormented by his wife and had found
“true” love in his disciple, what
was stopping him from getting
married legally? And above all, why
does such news sell so much?
Can laws decide what one should do
in a failed relationship? Can
psychologists decide? How personal
is this decision? How social is the
issue?
For news channels, the question is
how “masaaledar” is the news? -
Kumod Jha - July 10, 2006
You are right Mr. Rajiv Kumar, we
should not be the 'moral police' of
the world!
A brother or father having sexual
relationship with 'jawan'
sister/daughter is no business of
the world. Let everyone do whatever
they wish. A 9-year old steals your
son's book - let him get away with
it. After all who are we to say
stealing is wrong? That would be
'moral policing'. A man burns his
wife for dowry - let him exploit the
girl or her family; who are we to
judge what is moral and immoral? A
student cheats in the exams - let
him do it - who are we to say what
he is doing is not right? We should
mind our own business! We don't want
'moral cops' around us, do we? In
fact, every human action and
decision should be considered
'Right'; nothing should be wrong.
Why should the society judge a
person or be the "moral police'?
By the way, have you checked the
latest poll being run by PatnaDaily?
More than 82% are supporting Ranjana
Narayan. And you are asking Biharis
to grow up mentally! - R. K.
Sinha - July 10, 2006
I agree with Mr. R. K. Sinha. If we
just sit, watch and listen to wrong
things thinking that none of us is
perfect and hence no moral rights to
be judgmental for right and wrong
then even a judge in the court
should not have rights to put a
criminal, murderer or rapist behind
the bar. As we grow up, become
older, we should have more
responsibility towards the ethical
and moral values of the society. We
all have desire for earning money,
sex etc. but there are decent paths
to meet these needs and we shouldn't
cross the line after which we will
be no different than animals. I
definitely blame the beautiful lady
Julie for her cheap way of securing
higher marks. A call girl also sells
her body for leading an aristocratic
life and so Julie would be no
better. But being so elderly, the
professor (or any person) had more
responsibility towards his duty and
shouldn't have exploited the young
female students by luring with the
higher marks. The point is, if we do
not oppose or criticise such acts
then basically we are encouraging
them and day by day we all and our
future generation will be degraded
morally. - Anand Singh - July 11,
2006
The age difference is of no
consequence. We've seen many
couples, usually of older men and
younger women, in just about any
country in the world.
The issue here is cheating, and for
that his wife should take him for
all she deserves. If this professor,
or anyone for that matter, is going
to start a new relationship, they
should first finish the one they are
in. Otherwise, he should be prepared
to support both of them. -
Robert, Winnipeg, Canada - July 11,
2006
Anil jee, with due respect, the
professor may be “ugly”, the girl
may be “pagali”, but most of the
people who are being judgmental and
critical are “junglee” for sure. If
the same incident would have
happened in the USA, the wife and
the ruffians who painted the
professor must be cooling their
heels in incarceration for battery
and assault; and the state must have
been under pressure for damage of
the reputation of the professor and
failing to provide him with proper
security. What a shame! What a man
does inside his own house with
another consenting adult, in the
absence of his estranged wife, who
resides somewhere else, is his
business. Julie is an adult, a
student of a premier college and the
professor is the head of the
department of a prestigious college.
To lynch them on the street is
simply barbaric. The law should take
its own course; if any law is broken
the guilty should be punished, and
aggrieved party’s grievances should
be properly addressed. There was an
ace badminton player, Sayeed Modi,
he was cruelly butchered in the
broad daylight. A prominent
politician, who was accused in the
murder, married Amita Modi, the wife
of Sayeed Modi. At his marriage
ceremony, guess who attended the
marriage, besides other politicians,
the ex-premier of India. If those
hooligans, who were able to paint
the face of the professor, have
guts, try to just curse the accused
politician in public, and see what
happens. Or, try to find out in what
court Dharmendra Jee got divorce
decree and how he got married with
Hema Malini. Let us try to make
India a society of rational and
humane people, not a society of
“jungalee” people. - S. Verma,
New York - July 11, 2006
Let the love birds stay together.
Who we are to make such comments on
it? Love is soul of our heart and it
should not be considered a crime.
When, how, where and with whom it
happens no one really knows. It has
no boundaries, it is above all. So
everyone of us must know one thing
that revolution in our society has
begun. May god bless to the
"Love-Birds (Prof. Chaudhary &
Julie)" - Vinay Kumar - July 11,
2006
I really don't believe that this
article is true!! I think Julie
looks really happy and so does the
professor, so it sounds really
untrue. - Ananya Gupta - July 11,
2006
Mr. R. K. Sinha and other emotional
moral policing people,
You seem to be emotional and
rationalize your thoughts
illogically. There is a law of the
land to give justice to people if
they have done something wrong. What
a adult father/brother/sister/son
does is their own business and they
will face the realities of their
acts. If someone is baby, you could
(or should) preach and be a moral
teacher. Grow Up and smell the
coffee rather being hypothetical!!!
People of Bihar should be more
worried about the roads,
electricity, water, water-logging,
AIDS prevention and other basic
necessities. It is Not appropriate
for the people to react irrationally
to adult people conduct. There is
law for it.
I don't care of PD survey or Indian
news channel. It is for people who
like to see other people cabinet
than looking their own skeleton. I
hope some of people will learn to
rationalize the things in practical
perspective. - Rajeev Kumar -
July 11, 2006
Once again Mr. Rajeev Kumar, you've
shown your brilliance! Morality
should not be a part of adult lives;
they should be reserved for babies
only. Why worry about 'stupid
things' like personal responsibility
or issues like morality when there
is a judiciary system set up to deal
with those who break the law? I say
do away with the preaching in Gita,
Bible, and Quran, ban books on
morality like Panchtantra and
Hitopadesh. Morality is for
hypocrites. We should worry about
improvement in roads and electricity
and don't waste any time on what is
right and what is wrong! Development
and morality cannot go together.
Only uncouth Biharis have time to
discuss issues related to morality.
People in other states don't have to
deal with this issue.
So all you Biharis out there, listen
to what Rajeev ji is saying: wake up
and smell the coffee rather than
being 'hypothetical'.
'Nuf said! - R. K. Sinha - July
11, 2006
What is your problem if he has sex
with younger or older women? All
that matters legally is that she is
not a minor. As an adult, she can
better decide what is right and what
is wrong for her. The age of the man
is not an issue either. Did he rape
anyone? Did he cause trouble by
running naked through the streets?
Has he caused a major shift in the
balance of society? What is the
uproar about?
Maybe you do not have enough stuff
to do at home. It seems like people
have so much free time to mind
others' business. Have you guys ever
heard this song: Jisne kabhi na Paap
Kiya ho, woh pahla pathar mare? Just
tell me before becoming the moral
police, who has never done anything
wrong? Who among us can say that we
are a saint and have never made any
mistakes or committed any sins? I am
sure there is not one among us who
can truthfully attest to such a
statement. Please do not try to
become moral police.
Ms. Seema Jyotishiji wrote that
being a teacher precludes one on
some special ground from having
extramarital sex. With all due
respect, if this activity is wrong
for one group of people, then it is
wrong for all. I agree that as a
society, we have certain
expectations for certain groups of
people, but I think we do this out
of habit and a bit of hypocrisy. It
is none of our business to divide
people into two groups that way. If
something is wrong, it is wrong, if
it is right, it is right: end of
story.
Coming back to the question raised
by one of our brothers: No one
raised a question about the negative
light the women are being portrayed
in. If the story is real, what
question can be raised? If you are a
nice guy and I call you a thief,
then you will be angry; but if you
are already a thief, how can you
cry?
Regarding Udit Narayan: how the
women's commission is showing their
naiveté or simple stupidity! They
can summon anyone on the basis of
false case. Tomorrow someone can go
to commission, file a complaint that
she is my wife and I have to go to
Patna to prove that she is not my
wife. Wow!! What a great idea to
harass anyone. Even if the
complainant is my wife, we have laws
for dissolving marriages. An unhappy
marriage is not a life sentence.
Sometimes, the ideas that we just
blindly accept amaze me.
As for the young woman in the
original story: what is the problem
if she has been to a mental hospital
or a dental hospital? Are you
keeping track of her? By the way,
since when did her personal medical
records become a matter of public
importance?
It seems to me that a lot of
boundaries have been crossed within
this story and not all of them were
crossed by the main characters in
the drama here. The press, the
police and the public all should be
taking a peek into their own
backyards! - Anwar SMK, New York,
USA - July 12, 2006
With great interest, I have been
following the news on media as well
as some brilliant comments by
several readers.
What Prof Chaudhary thinks of
himself... is he the reincarnation
of Vatsyayan to profess about LOVE
and Julie is the Vasantsena (a
prostitute) being a subject of Prof.
Chaudhary? I am afraid what
Vatsyayan interpreted love in a most
scientific manner, Prof. Chaudhary
is doing it for his lust or sex. A
man can like him can stoop to any
degree. Thank god he didn't have a
daughter to study in Sweden
otherwise he would have experimented
his ideas of love even with his
daughter. We have such characters in
our society and Chaudhary is one of
them. I would like to tell Julie
that even MEERA was DIVANI OF
KRISHNA and she should adopt that
bhakti from Meera's life than to be
a KEPT of the professor.
Please have some moral sense Prof.
Chaudhary and come to terms. If you
don't like your wife, divorce her
and lead a life of a respected
teacher where students worship you
because of your knowledge and not
because you have ulterior motives
towards your students. Forget the
high concept of teacher-student
relationship.. It may sound utopian
but come and face the reality. You
are almost 55 and have another few
years to live. Why are you ruining
the life of a girl of your son and
daughter's age?
My one piece of advice to the wife
of Prof. Chaudhary... Don't cry and
howl. You have done no wrong. Take a
divorce and maintenance from
Chaudhary and stay happily with your
children. Chaudhary and Julie seem
to love media publicity thus they
are in the real sense doing "THETRAI"
(a Bihari lingo). And Julie you will
find much better stuff at JNU at
Ganga Dhaba where all facilities are
there to finish your lust. You think
you will get anything out of
Chaudhary. may be a PhD degree or a
lecturership, but will you be able
to get back your reputation? Today
you are young and beautiful so
Chaudhary has made you the target.
Such characters will never keep you
once you have lost the charm. What
will happen if after 2-3 years
another Julie comes more beautiful
and attractive than you and more
comprising than you. You will be
dropped like a hot potato and may
spend your entire future on GB road.
- Rajiv Sinha - July 12, 2006
By welcoming the professor in
college now Biharis have shown that
they are not orthodox as being
projected by Media. I wish happy
life for love couple. - P. K.
Tyagi - July 13, 2006 |