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Miriam,
This is in response to your comments
about treatment of women in Islam.
It is good to hear that some Muslim
women are not being mistreated,
however that doesn't represent the
facts out there for other Muslim
women in the world. You live in the
comforts of the west created by
non-Muslims, enjoy the modern life
style created by non-Muslims, and
then you think that all Muslim women
live the same life in other parts of
the world dominated by
fundamentalist Muslims? (You should
first be indebted to the non-Muslims
for offering you a comfortable world
and community, and then you should
have some sensitivity for
unfortunate fellow Muslim women who
are suffering in Islamic communities
around the world today. By saying
Muslim women are not being
mistreated in Muslim community is
like turning a blind eye to the real
problem).
Please keep in mind that the world
is not concerned about the so-called
moderate Muslims like you living in
west, but the extremist form of
Islam (or criminal Muslims as
recognized by CARE) that has been
doing most damage to the civilized
world. The so called purist Muslims
(Muslim fundamentalists) don't even
recognize Muslims like you. Purist
extremist Muslims consider moderate
Muslims like you - corrupt Muslims
of the world, and enemy of Islam.
You haven't responded (or
conveniently dodged) to the
suggestions made by one of the
writers that why you so called
moderate Muslims haven't gone to
preach to extremist criminal Muslims
- such as Taliban infested Pakistan
or Afghanistan to teach them about
moderate Islam. You mentioned that
you moderate Muslims are majority in
number - then why not preach these
criminal elements into following
your style? Answer is clear that you
are scared for your life and not
serious about correcting the problem
with Islam. Your so-called majority
in number is nothing if they
(criminal Muslims) run the show,
dominate the Muslim world and
especially consider your type of
moderate Muslims worthless! - Ronkin
Nasa - Oct. 22, 2007
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Dear Miriam Hoda, with due respect,
it is hard to believe that Hinduism
was imposed on Bengal. Perhaps, you
are ignorant of the historical
reality or the writers who provided
such fabricated story is suffering
with prejudice.
Hinduism as such is no religion and
this name is offered to us by
Arabians; who pronounce the river
“Sindhu” as “Hindu” and thus the
people leaving on the lands of
Sindhu are Hindus. So, if we go with
this definition then every
individual of this country is Hindu.
In our religious books such as
Ramayana and Mahabharata, you don’t
find a single world called Hindu and
neither there is mention of other
religions as at that time no other
religion visible in entire vicinity,
so no competition with outsiders.
Thus in our religious books the
Heroes as well as Villains were
following same God. The so-called
Hinduism is natural religion of
India. The Hindus worship Sun, Tree,
River, Animal, Soil, Air, Fire,
Stones and everything Natural.
Buddhism appeared many years later
and is off shoot of Hinduism as
Buddha was born as a Hindu prince
and he pushed forward the spiritual
messages of Mankind in the name of
Buddhism.
So, it is hard to digest that people
in Bengal were forcibly converted
from Buddhism to Hinduism; because
in reality the early mankind of
Indian subcontinent borne with
Hinduism and later many of them have
followed the preaching of Buddha.
Now, I can answer you: How followers
of Buddhism included back to Hindu
fold, if it is true? The Hindus
included Buddha as another
incarnation of their God and thus
all followers of Buddha; by default
included in Hinduism. And let me
tell you; this is beauty of
Hinduism; its flexibility and
openness. There is no forced rule
therefore it has survived all the
historical avalanches whereas other
ancient religions of similar era
diminished.
Hinduism is a very complex religion
as it divided into Caste system
based on someone’s profession; e.g.
Teachers are Brahmin; Warriors are
Chhatriya; Businessman are Vaisya
and their low level supporting
staffs are Shudra. Again these
castes are divided into many
sub-castes. Thus, this religion
cannot be forced on others; because
to convert a person to Hinduism you
need to associate that guy with
Particular caste; which is simply
difficult to imply. So, I feel sorry
for the Author who fabricated such
story with his prejudiced mindset.
Again Hinduism is open enough to
bypass and update its odds. If you
refer the history; Hinduism has
already rectified odds in manifolds
such as: caste based discrepancies;
child marriages; dowry system; Sati-daah
etc and still fighting on backlogs.
But, similar action is not visible
from Islam; where they prefer rather
to go backward. e.g. recently, the
highly educated PhD holders
engineers and doctors of your
community from Bangalore tried to
Bomb London airport.
Let me also tell you Hindus don’t
think Islam as a different religion
as they visit the Mosques and Majars
too as if it is their own Temple.
But, by bombing our festivals,
Temples and resisting our
celebrations; the hard-line Muslims
force us to think differently.
Experts say, the recent Bombing of
Ajmer-Sharif was because of
Amalgamation of Muslims and Hindus
in this Dargah which the hardliners
don’t want to digest. The extremists
cannot digest this flexibility and
they want every person to enter in
Dargah should strictly be converted
into Islam. - Parshuram - Oct. 22,
2007
[Note to all: This topic has
veered off to
'my-religion-is-better-than-yours;
or
your-religion-is-inferior-to-other-religions'.
Please stick to the topic - Iftar in
Indian politics. Thank you.]
In my opinion there is no need for
other (non-Muslims) including
non-Muslim political leaders in
India to celebrate Iftar party when
each year so many terrorist criminal
acts are committed in India and
around the world by Muslims – which
are mainly directed towards
non-Muslims. What is the point in
doing so called iftar party with
Muslims when their hands are tainted
with blood of innocent non-Muslims?
I agree that terrorist criminal
Muslims give bad name to all
Muslims, however it is then the job
of the so-called moderate Muslims to
control the criminal elements in an
effective way (not by just doing the
lip service of denunciation) and
create a world free of such mindless
terrorist acts against non-Muslims.
Once the Muslims have regained trust
of other non-Muslims then only
should the non-Muslims celebrate a
true Iftar with Muslims. If
political leaders continue to fake
the Iftari stunts then the true
problem with Muslim terrorism and
killing of innocent non-Muslims will
never be solved.
I was busy celebrating Durga Puja,
and I loved it so much as it
celebrates victory over terrorism
and mindless violence perpetrated by
demons against peace loving people.
Indian history and culture has
produced many role models who preach
non-violence, Hinduism doesn’t
reward mindless terrorism and
violence (as perpetrated by demonic
Ravan in Hindu's religious Ramayan).
Buddha, Jain, Mahatma Gandhi are
good role models for all. It is nice
to hear about the United Nation's
declaration of October 2 (Gandhi’s
Birthday) as the World Non-Violence
Day in honor of Mahatma Gandhi as a
testimony to the human's natural
desire to live in peace and harmony.
Regarding the spread of Islam in
Bangladesh, I totally disagree with
Miriam that Bangladeshi’s welcomed
Islam with open arms. It was only
the weaker, poorer, desperate
sections of the society who fell
victim to the Muslim invaders’
trickery, threat and coercion. It
has been true all over the world
(not only in historic Bangladesh)
that mainly the weaker sections of
the society had been coerced,
tricked and threatened into
converting to Islam. We all know
that weaker sections are so
desperate that they always hope that
the new comers will offer them a
better life – but in retrospect
these weaker sections of Bangladeshi
who converted to Islam actually fell
from frying pan to fire. Just look
at the facts - today Bangladeshi
Muslims are poorer – and so
desperate to get out of their so
called Islamic Bangladesh that they
even prefer to go begging in
neighboring non-Islamic India. So
what good was done by Islam?
Actually most of the developed and
developing countries happen to be
non-Islamic. Islam has been known to
make their republic - bankrupt,
people- a failure, and country - a
worst place to live (check out so
many muslim African countries). Look
at what the hardline Islamic
Taliban’s did to Afghanistan when
they came to power. - Salena Das - Oct. 27, 2007
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