I will
suggest you to not to write on such
topics on PatnaDaily.
Millions of dollars are being spent
to find the origins of Christ. Much
of the land is desert and
uninhabited so the artifacts dating
back to Christ are still intact.
Still, archaeologists couldn't find
anything concrete on Jesus.
India is densely populated. Much of
the Vedic Indian land is not a part
of this country anymore. Most of the
religious symbols, texts and temples
have been destroyed during Muslim
invasions. ASI gets a pittance in
form of funds and probably is in
Neanderthal age when it comes to
equipment. And they have the gall to
claim that Ram doesn't exist and
Ramayana is fictional? If some of
the best researchers in the world
couldn't establish the existence of
a 2000 year old prophet, how can ASI
establish that a 10,000 year old
king didn't exist?
We want to see their work. Please
disclose the finding.
We also like to know what and how
much benefits we will get out of
this project. There should also be
research to address environmental
concerns.
We all know DMK motive. In India
everyone can abuse Hindus and their
religion and then get branded as
'Secular' from 'Secular media'.
I want to remind you a similar
incident. In December 2004, the UPA
Government told the Parliament it
was abandoning the Saraswati River
Heritage Project. The project was
meant to carry out excavations and
trace the route the Saraswati took
before it dried up. Its budget was a
mere Rs 4.98 crore. Yet, the Culture
Minister announced it was being shut
down; the search for the Saraswati
was not worth it.
As we know Saraswati River is
mentioned in the Vedas. But all the
scholars said it is myth till
satellite data showed that there is
still an underground river running
and it is the same mentioned in the
Shruti. Now where is the apology? -
Ranjeet Kumar - Sept. 19, 2007
To
be modern and forward-looking is
good, but to clean the history in
this process is suicidal.
Every child born in India in Hindu
community is taught and asked to
follow the deeds and principles of
the great Avatar, Rama. It has been
a indivisible part of our society.
Ramayan is considered the most pious
book in Hindu community. Now, due to
central government and yours effort,
there are questions over
authenticity of several incidents
and places portrayed in Ramayan. I
have some serious concerns about
these acts:
Science has its own limits. It's
correct that science couldn’t prove
the hands of human in such a bridge
construction but who knows the
scientific methods have achieved
such an accuracy to prove the age
and type of any construction. There
are some methods to find out the age
of fossils, but who knows the
outcomes of these methods is
correct. Science is a continuous
process of establishing and negating
facts. If science is not able to
prove the RamaSetu fact, it's the
fault of science and not Ramayana.
At the age of RamCharitManas, there
would have been no satellites, no
NASA and no sophisticated equipments
for geographical surveys. Then, how
could it be possible for a villager
to write about a bridge inside sea
connecting India and Sri Lanka. How
can a simple man can imagine such a
big structure connecting two
countries without having any of
these current tools. The most
surprising fact is that, the setu
described by a common man is being
proved by the world’s best
geographical survey and satellite
surveillance organization, NASA. We
should at least pay respect to the
author for such a high degree
vision.
The most hurting fact about this
issue is the attitude of the
government and Indraji. I would like
to ask both of them, would they have
taken the same stand, if this issue
was related to the Muslim community.
I am sure then, the same bunch of
people would have talked about
secularism and social welfare and
more. I want just one answer, how
many letters and editorials, Indraji
have written about Shah Bano Case,
Authenticity of Mecca Mosque, Aayats
of Quran.
Please don’t crush the sentiments of
a tolerant and peace-loving
community. These acts would make
them more impatient and thus rise of
fundamentalism. - Ravish Kumar -
Sept. 19, 2007
For
a pluralistic society like India the
mix of religion and politics can be
disastrous. And our past is littered
with examples of that. Rama Setu
controversy is deliberate attempt of
a section of our political class to
create a controversy where there
actually exists none. The inept
handling by others is not helping
either.
A development project which is for
country’s good, being dragged in to
an unnecessary controversy is sign
of bankruptcy and hollowness of our
political class.
Faith and rationality are two
spheres of life which more often
than not fail to converge. A
rational approach, backed by
scientific community’s declarations
that the Adam’s bridge is basically
a coral structure formed over the
millennia, would be to let the canal
come up which will help ships
traveling to India’s east coast
avoid traveling all around Sri
Lanka.
There is no dearth of real issues in
our country for some one to drag
fair name of Lord Rama into
political controversies.
On the other hand utterances of Mr.
Karunanidhi, Chief Minister of Tamil
Nadu about Lord Rama and Ramayana
and Union Govt’s first affidavit and
then subsequent retraction are signs
of insensitivity and political
ineptness respectively. Both needed
to be more careful in their words
and actions. By conducting them in
this manner both are needlessly
adding fuel to the controversy and
falling to the trap led by Hindutva
Brigade. - Abhishek Kumar,
Chennai - Sept. 19, 2007
I
felt a little uncomfortable when I
heard some people in BJP oppose the
channel as it is a manmade bridge.
However, that appears tiny compared
to the govt affidavit questioning
the existence of Ram. The
provocative comments of Karunanidhi,
not once but twice, appears to show
some people are more interested to
create disharmony than build the
channel.
With such action, I am forced to
seriously question the attitude of
the "secular" forces. To me they are
proving to be worse than religious
bigots. - Thakur Vikas Sinha -
Sept. 20, 2007
The
basic difference here between all
what has happened till now, (pre and
post Independence era) and now that
Hindustan is in danger of losing its
identity and meaning, at least
that's the agenda behind, this is
very serious.
If there's no Ram there's no
Hindustan. Let me show you how:
What's Hinduism? Way of life,
dharma, this whole dharma fabric is
woven around Shri Ram up to an
extent of about 80%. You would find
your dharma related to Shri Ram in
one way or the other. I would not
get into the details, as I know you
know it. Does this interpretation
work for Hindustanis?
I would not call it conspiracy,
politics, or any other excuse.
Hindustanis, you are on test of
losing even your basic inherent
animal instinct to safeguard your
identity.
Big question is, how can
Hindustan/Hindustanis be lost? Is
Hinduism mere a skin deep dharma to
Hindustani's and not soul within? -
Raj Hun - Sept. 21, 2007
Religion is a matter of faith, not
facts. Why stir up a storm and
create division amidst communities?
Do the intelligent and practical
thing, scrap the bridge project and
finish the matter. Let all live in
peace and harmony.
Rama bless our country. - Dr
Sanjeet Kumar, New Jersey -
Sept. 21, 2007
Indra jee
Am so sorry that Harvard educated
Swamy will not and shouldn't care to
respond to you. He has a much bigger
canvas to paint and bigger
adversaries to fight and respond to.
He has to deal with adversaries as
strong as the Roman Churchianity
empire, Autocratic China (keeps
flooding Bihar and Nepal), Osama
Laden (keeps sending his agents like
Shahabuddin to Katihar, Chapra),
Saudi Shiekhs (keep sending petro
dollars to keep our Muslim brethrens
away from modern education and
confined to Madarsas), Sonia Maino
(Vatican's plant in India and also
receipient of funds from KGB),
spineless Manmohan, Harkishan
Surjeet (on pay roll of China),
Prakash Karat (NDTV Pranay Roy's
half brother) and Chinese vast
economic-military army. Also our not
so friendly neighbour Pakistan and
Bangladesh, and Afghan. Wasn't
Afghanistan (Kandhar a.k.a. Gandhar)
part of India during Mahabharata?
But now that you have chosen to mess
up with hornet's nest, may this IIM-A
educated Bihari request you again to
remain focused on Bihar. And I will
not distract this group also with
another long mail, but urge you to
increase your reading list beyond
NCERT and JNU historian books, Do
some wider self-education and will
be helpful. NCERT books got you to
IIT and that was nice. But try
reading beyond and will discover
some truths and that could have
taken you much beyond IIT-KGP or
your nice villa in Kolkata.
You are doing a great work for Bihar
via your very informative blogs and
critical reviews and ideas that you
share with Nitish Govt. Please keep
doing that and I also promise to
remain focused on Bihar on this
forum
Let Swamy, his adversaries and their
opponents fight it out. We can
remain focused on our very own
Gautam Buddha, Mahavira, Guru Gobind
Singh and Mahaveer Arogya Sansthan
efforts of Kunal.
I personally don't like Ram a lot as
well. Don't like the treatment that
UP wala husband gave to our Bihari
Maithil speaking Sita. She didn't
need to give "Agni Pariksha" etc ..
This issue of Ram Sethu Samudram to
me, is just a symbol of some bigger
and very sinister plans and agenda.
Won't distract this very very
focused group but reply to me
personally and will share with you
some credible references on the
"sinister" designs and plans why
they were in so much of a rush to
demolish the bridge and why they had
to make sure APJ Kalam doesn't
become a president rather and have a
"criminal murderer, financial
scamster" take his place. Try to
connect the dots and you will see
some threads and if need references
then let me know. BTW, Krishna's
Dwarka was also a myth till Dr. SR
Rao of ASI discovered it and the
world knows that it was not a myth.
There are many many myths waiting to
become part of history, respected
Indra Sharma jee. You are much
senior to me but may I do this
imprudence to ask you? Apne parents
se puchchiye ki mera naam "Indra"
kyon rakha, "Ravan" kyon nahin?
We Biharis have already paid the
price of solving world hunger type
issues. From India's freedom
movement to JP''s Indira Hatao to
recent Mandir/Mandal and all those
issues. Let the affluent parts of
India (Gujarat, Kerala, Tamil Nadu)
solve the national and international
issues and we Biharis keep our
ideological differences to bigger
foray.
Why don't we use this crisis as an
opportunity to project Bihar's
Nalanda, Bodh Gaya, Gaya, Patna
Sahib, Pawapuri as world's spiritual
capital. Let rest of India work on
issues like Sethu Samudram and let
the USA deal with Osama and China,
let the Denmark, London and rest of
EU deal with Osama and gang.
We should remain focused on Bihar
and if possible engage with Japan
more closely and get some $5-10b
investment in Bihar. - Atul
Kumar, USA - Sept. 21, 2007
(Edited)
In India if you want to project
yourself or your party as secular,
forward minded, modern, development
oriented etc then the first thing
you should target is the Hindus. By
humiliating them directly or
indirectly (say Ram, Sarwasti,
Temples, Kashmiri Pandits etc) you
score points and get away easily.
Hindus are after all a tolerant
community.
Does Karunanidhi have the guts to
utter even a single word about any
other religion? If he had done so
there would have been a fatwa
against him and by this time
PatnaDaily.Com would have been
publishing an obituary. We all know
what happened to Pope - don't we? If
Pope was literally forced to
apologise imagine what would have
happened to Mr Karunanidhi.
It's time now for us to debate the
meaning of 'secularism'. It's too
serious a word to be left in the
hands of people like Karunanidhi or
the Congress Party. - Dr Pankaj
Kr Mishra - Sept. 22, 2007 |
